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I am new here. I have a couple of elephant in the room questions:

How is Geoengineering not in this equation somewhere? Does the absolute spraying in our skies that are producing 2 and 3 weather systems at once now need to be explained to Pat Warren? Dane Wiggington and many others now have been shouting this from the rooftops for many many years and nobody is listening.

Main stream news has recently talked about it. It has been spoken about in our parliament in early 2023. Why is this not in this discussion?

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Cynthia Chung's "Escaping Calypso's Island" is a great place to start shifting peoples minds who have bought into this Malthusian climate emergency tactics:

Here is the 22 min video link: https://risingtidefoundation.net/escaping-calypsos-island/

The transcript of my favorite part is below:

An 1989 set of climate predictions from NY director of UN Environmental Program, Noel Brown, concluding that:

“Entire nations could be wiped off the face of the earth by rising sea levels, if global warming trend not reversed by 2000.”

1956 John Holdren, Pres Barack Obama's top science advisor had a particularly dire prediction according to close collaborator Paul Elrich's book "The Machinery of Nature" where he wrote as Univ of Calif physicist John Holdren has said

"It's possible that carbon dioxide climate induced famines could kill as many as a billion people before the year 2020."

Before the universities and media told the general public that the experts predicted rapid catastrophic global warming, it told the general public that the experts predicted catastrophic global cooling this claim became popular in the late 1960s and through the 1970s such as:

• the Guardian headline in 1974:

“Space satellite shows new Ice Age coming fast”

• and the New York Times in 1978:

“International team of Specialists finds no end in sight to 30-year cooling Trend in northern hemisphere”

Throughout the late 1960s and early 1970s Paul Ehrlich renowned ecologist who has spoken for over 50 years on fossil fuels the author of best-selling books and winner of the Crawford Prize what has been called the Nobel Prize of environmentalism predicted that:

“Resource depletion including fossil fuel depletion plus an increasing population

would lead to a population bomb and mass starvation unless dramatic

government measures were taken.”

in 1970 Paul Ehrlich predicted that:

“Worsening air pollution is certainly going to take hundreds of thousands of lives in the next few years alone.”

in 1971 Ehrlich said:

“By the year 2000 the United Kingdom will be simply a group of impoverished Islands inhabited by some 70 million hungry people.”

and in 1974 he wrote:

“America's economic Joyride is coming to an end there will be no more cheap abundant energy no more cheap abundant food.”

The Club of Rome predicted in the limits to growth published in 1972 that continued to growth in consumption would exceed the available resources of gold

silver copper zinc natural gas and petroleum; instead, we have seen an increase today with improved reserves of fossil fuels.

Improved reserves mean the amount of coal oil gas that is considered viable to produce given today's technology market conditions and knowledge. (aka technological advancements).

Renowned ecologist Kenneth Watt another designated expert predicted:

“At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it is only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable.”

Kenneth Watt had also predicted in 1970, when global cooling catastrophizing was the trend that:

“Because of the particles emitted into the air by burning fossil fuels, scientists have solid experimental and theoretical evidence to support the following predictions in a decade: “Urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution by 1985 air

pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching Earth by one half.”

In 1989 Bill McKibben wrote:

“A few more decades of ungoverned fossil fuel use and we burn up, to put it bluntly, and the choice of doing nothing, of continuing to burn evermore oil and coal is not a choice! In other words, it will lead us if not straight to hell then

straight to a place of similar temperature.”

To acknowledge the strand of inaccurate climate catastrophe predictions that not a single catastrophic prediction has come true over this 50-year course yet many of these same voices continue to be respected in their ongoing predictions of climate catastrophe. This is not meant as a cheap or biased remark it is a factual remark, and if we want to look at the real science behind such claims. such false

predictions and projections must be held accountable by a scientific standard.

This is even more relevant and significant to acknowledge today since we are unlike decades ago shaping law and policy in order to respond to these

ongoing predictions and projections of what is claimed to be a human-made

climate crisis.

For instance, the solution that is being proposed by the European Union is the

goal to achieve Net Zero by 2050; which means to be completely off of fossil

fuel use in less than 30 years from now with a plan to be 100 sustainable on

zero carbon emitting energy not including nuclear energy this will most clearly affect the well-being and health of billions of people.

Thus, we should ask ourselves the following fundamental questions before

diving headlong into this:

1. Is it possible for zero carbon emitting energy primarily renewable energy to replace the reliance on fossil fuel energy and why hasn't this been achieved already?

2. Is renewable energy really environmentally friendly in its production use of land and other resources and waste disposal?

3. How is climate crisis defined?

4. What are the justifications behind the claim that the Earth is experiencing a climate crisis that is catastrophic climate?

5. What are the justifications behind the claim that fossil fuel use is contributing to a climate crisis?

We should really take the time to look into the scientific evidence to back this claim especially since there is a very long history of crying wolf in climate catastrophe.

It is reckless to base large political and energy policy on something that has a track record of being 100 percent wrong thus what is the evidence today that is being presented to justify such policies as Net Zero by 2050.

What is behind the proposals for how energy production and the energy market are going to be organized to meet the 2050 goal?

Can we truly live on earth such that all humans can flourish and have access to a

high standard of living, or do we need to compromise in this?

Can only some humans flourish at the evident cost of others?

Can we truly live on earth such that both humans and nature can flourish?

Do we live in a zero-sum world with limited resources and if we do not how

does this affect how we should be regarding our relationship to others and

the planet?

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https://risingtidefoundation.net

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